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Warner Bros made Joker into a $200M musical — and lost $150–200M
The 2019 Joker made $1.08B on a $60M budget, so Warner Bros greenlit a ~$200M musical sequel — Folie à Deux opened to $37.7M and is projected to lose $150–200M.
Warner Bros. · 2024-10-04
What happened
The 2019 Joker grossed over $1 billion worldwide on a $60 million budget and won Joaquin Phoenix a Best Actor Oscar. Warner Bros responded by scaling the sequel to match the success: Variety reported the Folie à Deux budget hit $200 million — with Phoenix paid $20 million, Lady Gaga $12 million, and writer-director Todd Phillips $20 million — roughly triple the first film's outlay.
Released October 4, 2024, the jukebox-musical sequel opened to $37.7 million domestically against an industry break-even estimate of $450 million and earned a D CinemaScore. Deadline's own preview had eyed a $140 million global start; the film instead became one of 2024's defining bombs.
Variety reported in October that the theatrical run was expected to lose $150–200 million, a figure Warner Bros called 'grossly wrong' — though analysts' range ran from $125 million to $200 million. The post-mortem centered on the same decisions: Phillips 'wanted nothing to do' with DC oversight, and the creative bet — a musical courtroom romance — rejected the audience the original had built.
Why it happened
- The greenlight scaled a $60M character study into a ~$200M event film: star salaries alone ($52M across Phoenix, Gaga and Phillips) matched most of the first film's entire production budget.
- The sequel swapped the genre that worked — a grounded thriller — for a jukebox musical; a D CinemaScore shows the audience the first film built was the one the sequel insulted.
- Warner Bros let the director isolate the project from DC oversight while spending ~$100M on marketing, so the misjudgment had no institutional brake before release.
The lesson
A hit is not a license to scale the bet: the sequel tripled the budget and swapped the genre, and the loss erased the first film's profit. Budget the idea, not the previous film's earnings.
Sources
- Variety — Warner Bros. Spends Big: 'Joker 2' Budget Hits $200 Million, Lady Gaga's $12 Million Payday, Courting Tom Cruise's New Deal and More
- Deadline — Can Lady Gaga & Joaquin Phoenix's 'Joker: Folie à Deux' Go Nuts At The Box Office? $140M Global Start Eyed – Preview
- Variety — 'Joker: Folie à Deux' to Lose $150 Million to $200 Million in Theatrical Run After Bombing at Box Office
- Variety — Inside the 'Joker: Folie à Deux' Debacle: Todd Phillips 'Wanted Nothing to Do' With DC on the $200 Million Misfire
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